Since ranks are not comparable not only across different associations but even within a single dojo, making assumptions about "knowledge", physical skill, or fighting ability based on rank can lead to either over- or underestimations of whatever you are hoping to evaluate.hnic623 wrote:can you define one's knowledge based on their Dan ranking?
if someone has been training in shotokan as a shodan for years, does that mean that a yodan is better.
FA wrote:Ranking is much like the sign on the highway that is marked 45 mph for the turn. If your headed towards it in a ultra modern sports machine with racing tires and a tuned suspension you can more than likely take the turn at 65 mph +, yet if your driving a 1950's utility truck maybe 30 mph is safe?
When I first tested for a dan rank in the 70's, 3rd ~ 5th dan was somewhat rare. Making Shodan was a big step, took 5 to 7 years of tough practice, required that you be really proficient is several advance kata and knew the basic Heian kata " very " well.
At our last nights training (Sat 6 ~ 10 PM) a young 17 y.o. visiting our club asked me after class what rank are you ? I answered " you have matched with me, watched me practice kata, what do you think ? " He said 6th or 7th dan , I bowed and said thank you for the promotion son.
IMHO many of todays Shodan would not qualify for 3rd kyu.... but is is all very subjective.
Robert S wrote:Rank is irrelevant.
People judge by what you can do.
An 8th dan who hasn't trained for 10 years, may be an 8th dan, but he has stopped his progression. He has stopped training. If he can't move, and lives on rhetoric, and likes to recall 'yesterday', that is what he is. yesterday's grade.
A 1st Dan who trains daily, kicks a.. on a regular basis, and is hungry to learn, is today's grade.
As Frank says, years ago a 3rd dan was a rarity, it was a grade that implied a degree of skill.
Grades nowadays are impossible to adjudicate.
Subjective within the association they are given by.
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