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Postby shotokan101 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:20 am

Paul Bedard wrote:So Jim; who is not supposed to be fearful, the student or the sensei :!: :lol:
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Re: What the heck is that?

Postby fujicolt » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:26 am

Tom O'Brien wrote:Steve,

I truly appreciate your love & concern. I know it is genuine. You have touched a nerve here because this is a serious character defect of mine. I don't know how to slow down. I will probably just keep going till I get too hurt. I just hope it's not due to an injury that is perminent or very debilitating.
I am actually looking for suggestions as to how I might slow down. Maybe it's my ego, competitiveness, machismo - probably all of the above. But I have a need to teach every class myself, start every drill, increase the tempo & participate in every round of kumite.

Thanks,
Tom


I personally feel that if this happened many would go :shock: thank goodness.

Go to your Most Senior and longterm students and say this...

'Guys and Girls, as i hope you know i have always tried to lead from the front - and will continue to do so if you wish me to but several realities need to be faced...

'firstly - i am not as young as i once was and as much as i hate to admit it - my body does not recover as it used to and the fact is i need to heed that fact seriously
BUT secondly and more importantly - i hope i have instructed you well and i really feel that i must continue your instruction by giving you more responsibility now - so i am gonna push YOU forward now to take responsibility for things like warm ups and cool downs - teaching assignments etc and a more proactive involvement in the club - i shall over see it and still do a lot of it whilst i am helping you develop but it is time for us to work together to move things on realistically - because tis your turn now so i want to get you ready for it'

Jim - watch them smile and dive in to help - they understand

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Postby Tom O'Brien » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:10 am

Steve,

You are right on point. I have to face the fact that I am older & it is not about me anymore. I sometimes resemble this old joke: - Q - How many senseis does it take to change a light bulb?
A - Only one, but is has to be me. I put the bulb in and the world revolves around me.
It is time to step back & let my juniors take the reins. I really need to take this advice.

Disclaimer: I'll do it in September - I'm having too much fun right now.

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Re: What the heck is that?

Postby Lyndon_Davies » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:32 pm

Tom O'Brien wrote:Steve,

I truly appreciate your love & concern. I know it is genuine. You have touched a nerve here because this is a serious character defect of mine. I don't know how to slow down. I will probably just keep going till I get too hurt. I just hope it's not due to an injury that is perminent or very debilitating.
I am actually looking for suggestions as to how I might slow down. Maybe it's my ego, competitiveness, machismo - probably all of the above. But I have a need to teach every class myself, start every drill, increase the tempo & participate in every round of kumite.

Thanks,
Tom


Tom, I don't think that attitude's such a bad thing (possibly because I share it) and it is what makes you the karateka you are. And despite what you say, it is ALWAYS about you, and your needs. Yes, Steve does have a point in that we're all getting older, but it's a matter of pushing for as long as possible - sometimes just to keep up.

That said, I will have nights where I do slightly less, perhaps don't fight all the top guys, maybe just teach the kata rather than demonstrate it as well... did I feel guilty the first time I "dropped out"? - you bet your life, but the next session (when I was aching less and felt more "up") I did a little more to convince myself I was making up for it. :) :)
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How the heck?

Postby Tom O'Brien » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:42 am

I appreciate the input & advice. Yeah - guilty - it's all about me & it's all my ego, selfishness & self-centerdness. I'm a legend in my own mind. I need to change. I am trying, honestly I am, but it's baby steps. I notice that I can get the same satisfaction, vicariously now, through my students. Just have to take a deep breath & step back. It's a natural process that must happen. It's time for the 'young guns' to take over. Acceptance is the key. I'm confident I will get there with the help of all you guys.

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Re: How the heck?

Postby Lyndon_Davies » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:31 am

Tom O'Brien wrote: Yeah - guilty - it's all about me & it's all my ego, selfishness & self-centerdness.


You say that like it's a bad thing..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paul Bedard » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:40 pm

I think that a person that exels in any field would be very dishonest if they denied having said attributes :!: :lol:
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What the heck?

Postby Tom O'Brien » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:27 am

You guys are too kind. I am working on my ability to be more humble though. Today we did some judo - ronduri & ne-waza, we also did some kumite and it was all good. The ronduri was all about throw & be thrown & the kumite was all about hit & be hit. Just a good work out - no egos. Great fun too. Progress for me. I think I also have this fear of being one of those - old, fat, out of shape senseis that lives by - do as I say not as I do. I will just try to do whatever the class is doing and not try to out-do anyone. I am finding balance.

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What the heck?

Postby Tom O'Brien » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:54 pm

looks like I have some torn cartilage in my left knee. I know because I have experienced this 3 times before. I had arthoscopic knee surgery 3X, once on my right knee & 2X on my left. I have been told by the doctors that I can probably have it done again. We shall see.

In any case it may be good for me to slow down.

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Postby fujicolt » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:17 am

Will SOMEONE please go and sit on Tom for at least a month and let the man's body recover!

TOM - behave yer daft old sod :wink:
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Postby Tom O'Brien » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:30 am

Aye, Aye sir. Slowing down - got no choice.

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Postby Paul Bedard » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:39 am

Tom at least they are still giving you hope of a chance for improvement. I recently went to an orthopedic surgion hoping for the orthoscopic thing & was told it won`t work on my old arthritic joints, what a let down, so as Steve would point out I guess I have to listen to my body & not push at times unless I`m willing to pay for it. I`m don`t know about the willing part but I`m getting used to the pay for it part :!: :lol: The specialist told me that when I can`t walk a block anymore to come back for a knee replacement. I guess that I can at least be thankful for the fact that thanks to karate training I can still move fairly well for an arthritic middle aged guy :!: He told me to keep doing what I was doing as he was actualy impressed at what my body would still let me do :!: :)
If only I knew then, what I know now, when I was younger...
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Postby Tom O'Brien » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:00 am

Yeah Paul,

If we only knew then, what we now know. You can say that again. I have arthritis too, mostly in my right wrist. Hmm - makiwara training may have helped expedite that process. Tameshiwara may not have helped either. I will probably continue doing just what I am doing till I can't walk a block either. We should make a wager as to which one of us will be unable to accomplish that feat first. Wait - an NYC block or a London block?

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What the heck?

Postby Tom O'Brien » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:46 am

Went to the doc today. He said I have arthritis in my knee. I said I wanted a second opinion. He said OK, you're ugly too.

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Postby Paul Bedard » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:51 am

It would seem that our doctors went to the same med. school :!: :lol:
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